Carlyle Marney - "Not to Condemn" (April 17, 1977)

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-	Duke University Chapel Service of Worship:	0:04
	First Sunday after Easter, April 17th, 1977, 11 o'clock.	0:07
	(gentle organ music)	0:25
	(upbeat organ music)	6:38
	♪ Beautiful Savior ♪	12:04
	♪ Lord of the nations ♪	12:12
	♪ Son of God and Son of Man ♪	12:20
	♪ Glory and honor ♪	12:35
	♪ Praise, adoration ♪	12:43
	♪ Now and forevermore be Thine ♪	12:49
	♪ Now and forever ♪	13:01
	♪ Now and forevermore be Thine ♪	13:05
	(upbeat organ music)	13:26
	(singing drowned out by organ)	14:05
	(upbeat organ continues)
-	Dear people of God, because of our certainty	18:00
	of God's ever present love and mercy,	18:05
	we are enabled to confront those deceits and disguises	18:10
	by which we try to deceive ourselves	18:15
	and our brothers and sisters.	18:19
	And so we can make our corporate confession of sin.	18:22
	Let us pray.	18:27
	In your presence, God,	18:30
	our hearts are moved to all in gratitude,	18:32
	but also touched by a deep disquiet.	18:37
	All things are open before you	18:41
	and no secrets are hid from your eyes.	18:44
	As we feel your eye upon us,	18:48
	our own eyes are clarified and we behold what we truly are.	18:51
	Forgive us for being so deeply involved in deceit	18:58
	and the secret betrayal of your love.	19:03
	The will indeed is present with us,	19:07
	but how to perform that which is good we know not.	19:10
	Break, oh Lord, the chains of our self-love.	19:15
	I know about your mercy.	19:19
	All the hurt we have done others by our pride,	19:21
	envy, and deceit.	19:26
	In your power and wisdom, redeem this our generation,	19:29
	your children, and bring us out of the tumult	19:34
	and misery of this day.	19:37
	Above all, give us that peace which passes understanding	19:40
	which the world cannot give or take away.	19:46
	Hear these, our personal confessions, oh loving God.	20:06
	Here are the biblical words of assurance:	20:12
	"Far as the heavens are high above this earth,	20:16
	so great is God's steadfast love toward us.	20:20
	As far as the east is from the west,	20:24
	so far does God remove our transgressions from us."	20:27
	Live now as forgiven people, the new creation of God. Amen.	20:33
	(upbeat organ music)	20:43
	♪ Sing hallelujah ♪	21:28
	(indistinct singing)	21:33
	♪ Sing hallelujah ♪	21:36
	(indistinct singing)	21:39
-	From the prophet Jeremiah, 3:12-18:	27:02
	The Lord instructs Jeremiah,	27:09
	"Go and proclaim these words to the north, saying,	27:11
	'Return faithless Israel,' says the Lord.	27:15
	'I will not look upon you with anger for I am merciful.	27:19
	I will not be angry forever.	27:23
	Only acknowledge your guilt,	27:26
	that you have rebelled against the Lord, your God,	27:28
	and scattered your favors among strangers everywhere	27:31
	and that you have not obeyed my voice,' says the Lord.	27:35
	'Return, oh faithless children, for I am your master.	27:39
	I will take you, one from a city and two from a family,	27:44
	and I will bring you to Zion	27:48
	and I will give you shepherds after my own heart,	27:51
	who will feed you with knowledge and understanding	27:54
	and, when you have multiplied and increased in the land	27:58
	in those future days,' says the Lord,	28:01
	'they shall no more say the Ark of the covenant of the Lord.	28:04
	It shall not come to mind nor be remembered or missed.	28:08
	It shall not be made again.	28:13
	At that time, Jerusalem shall	28:16
	be called the throne of the Lord	28:18
	and all nations shall gather to it,	28:21
	to the presence of the Lord in Jerusalem,	28:23
	and they shall no more	28:26
	stubbornly follow their own evil hearts.	28:27
	In those days, the house of Judah	28:30
	shall join the house of Israel and together they shall come	28:33
	from the land of the north to the land	28:36
	that I gave your fathers for a heritage.'"	28:39
	Will the congregation please rise	28:43
	for the reading of the gospel?	28:44
	From the Gospel According to John, 3:16-17:	28:53
	"For God so loved the world that he gave his only son	29:00
	that whoever believes in him should not perish,	29:04
	but have eternal life.	29:06
	For God sent his son into the world not	29:09
	to condemn the world,	29:11
	but that the world might be saved through him."	29:13
	May God add blessing upon the proclamation	29:17
	of his most holy word.	29:19
	(upbeat organ music)	29:21
	(singing drowned out by organ)	29:30
-	Let us affirm what we believe.	30:07
	We believe in God who has created and is creating,	30:11
	who has come in the truly human Jesus to reconcile	30:17
	and make new, who works in us and others by the Spirit.	30:21
	We trust God who calls us to be the church,	30:28
	to celebrate life and its fullness,	30:33
	to love and serve others, to seek justice and resist evil,	30:36
	to proclaim Jesus, crucified and risen,	30:43
	our judge and our hope.	30:47
	In life and death and life beyond death, God is with us.	30:50
	We are not alone. Thanks be to God.	30:58
	The Lord be with you.	31:03
-	And with your Spirit.	31:05
-	Let us pray.	31:06
	Oh, holy God, we thank you for life and love	31:15
	and the mystery of all existence,	31:23
	for the simple joys which are ours,	31:27
	and for the beauty of this world which surrounds us,	31:31
	for good friends who love us and accept us with all	31:37
	of our sharp edges and short tempers and impatience,	31:42
	for all the common and uncommon responsibilities	31:49
	which enlarge our souls.	31:54
	Hear us now, oh God, as we pray for others,	31:58
	for those who toil on farm and in factory,	32:05
	in the house and buildings and under the grion,	32:10
	that may enjoy the fruits of their work	32:14
	and may not be defrauded of their rightful due.	32:19
	And we pray that we may never cease to be mindful	32:23
	of our debt to them, remembering always	32:27
	that our comfortable life is made possible by the labor	32:32
	of many of your children.	32:37
	We pray, oh God, for all who have authority	32:41
	over their brothers and sisters,	32:43
	that they may never use it selfishly for themselves,	32:46
	but so live in obedience to you that they may be guided	32:51
	to do justice and to love mercy and to walk humbly	32:56
	and so serve all of your children.	33:03
	We pray for all for whom life looks bleak and hopeless,	33:09
	whether because of the inhumanity of others,	33:15
	their own limitations, or because of those hazards of life	33:20
	which beset us all.	33:25
	We pray that they may contend against injustice	33:29
	without bitterness, overcome their own weakness	33:32
	with diligence, and accept with patience	33:37
	that which cannot be changed.	33:41
	And now, oh loving God, we lift to your care those people	33:45
	who are dear to us for whom our hearts are heavy this day.	33:49
	Hear us as we silently lift these names to you.	33:56
	Heal those who need healing. Feed those who are hungry.	34:14
	Care for those who are lonely and enable us to respond	34:21
	to those who need our love and care.	34:25
	Oh God, give to those who are facing the end	34:30
	of a semester calmness and serenity and grant	34:35
	that we may worship you with minds	34:40
	which have been renewed by your love.	34:43
	Grant us honesty when confronted with doubts and perplexity.	34:49
	Help us to collaborate and cooperate	34:55
	with others in seeking truth.	34:58
	Protect us from being distracted by regard for popularity	35:03
	or riches or prestige and, may we not be content	35:08
	with contemplating the truth, but be dedicated to live it.	35:14
	And hear us now	35:23
	as we pray the prayer our Lord has taught us.	35:25
	Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name;	35:30
	thy kingdom come, thy will be done	35:37
	on earth as it is in heaven.	35:41
	Give us this day our daily bread,	35:44
	and forgive us our trespasses,	35:47
	as we forgive those who trespass against us;	35:50
	and lead us not into temptation,	35:54
	but deliver us from evil.	35:57
	For thine is the kingdom, and the power,	36:00
	and the glory, forever, amen.	36:03
	It has been almost a year since Reggie Howard,	36:10
	our ASDU president, was tragically killed	36:13
	in an automobile accident when returning to a meeting	36:16
	of the Duke Board of Trustees.	36:19
	Reggie was dedicated to this university	36:23
	and his fellow students.	36:25
	He was committed to the church.	36:27
	He was concerned for the youth of this city	36:29
	and he found time to stay involved	36:33
	in his home church and community.	36:36
	Among Reggie's many activities was ushering	36:39
	in this chapel on Sunday morning.	36:43
	We still mourn our loss and all of the offering	36:46
	which is received on this day will go	36:50
	to the Reggie Howard Scholarship Fund,	36:53
	which has been established by this university	36:56
	to provide scholarships for minority students,	36:59
	beginning this coming fall.	37:03
	We encourage you to share in this important memorial	37:06
	to an outstanding Christian student.	37:12
	We are glad to have you back in this pulpit Dr. Marney.	37:16
	You are an important person in the life of this chapel,	37:21
	especially because you have helped guide many of us	37:25
	in our Christian pilgrimage and we wait	37:28
	with eager anticipation and open hearts and minds	37:31
	to hear the word you preach to us today.	37:35
-	There's a text for what I am about to try to do to you.	37:47
	And I confess to some pleasure, always,	37:52
	in setting out to do to, for, or with you, here.	37:55
	But how does one ever think to do it from here	38:01
	or from there, for that matter?	38:05
	Years ago, I sat on the last row in my old place	38:09
	to hear my successor and suddenly I realized	38:13
	I had never seen the backs of their necks in church.	38:17
	They seemed somehow to stiffen in church.	38:22
	How did I think to do anything to them	38:27
	with those stiff necks in just 10 years?	38:31
	And it's sheer presumption here, for that matter.	38:36
	For we all have ways	38:41
	of defending ourselves against the gospel,	38:43
	even if it's preached.	38:47
	But, I do bring a text to my presumption.	38:51
	I've never used it before, not in decades of doing sermons.	38:55
	Nor have I found or heard or read a sermon on it.	39:02
	Everyone jumps over my clause to get to the clincher.	39:07
	And it's really so that we have never believed this text.	39:12
	Neither we Protestants, nor us Catholics, have believed it.	39:18
	Only flower children really believe it,	39:23
	for we were not reared to believe in grace	39:28
	and, because we simply can't accept grace,	39:33
	we really forego believing that God did not send his son	39:38
	into the world to condemn the world.	39:45
	Now, how shall I clear these lovely words	39:51
	of their obvious masculinity?	39:54
	Why can I not clear it as the church has done for centuries	39:59
	with a hail Mary full of grace, The Lord is with thee,	40:04
	blessed art thou amongst women	40:10
	and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus?	40:13
	And so we can read it:	40:18
	"God sent not the fruit of Mary's womb	40:20
	into the world to condemn the world."	40:24
	Jesus or no, fruit of Mary's womb notwithstanding,	40:29
	there's plenty condemnation around.	40:36
	Condemnation oozes up through the floor cracks	40:40
	in all our hovels.	40:43
	We float on a sea of condemnation not from Jesus.	40:47
	My mail this month, the newscasters from 5:30 AM	40:53
	to 11:30 at night who speak of little else	40:59
	but krine, judgment, condemnation.	41:02
	From Utah to the Virginia Board of Fisheries	41:08
	to the US of A Bureau of Health, columnists,	41:10
	scenario writers, poets, pop artists,	41:15
	singers of domestic infidelity, all accuse us.	41:20
	I accuse us.	41:24
	While business, government, medicine, law, politics,	41:27
	domestic relations courts, religionists, educators	41:32
	accuse and counter accuse and confess.	41:36
	The very air we breathe is laden with condemnation.	41:40
	But, back to the mail and the telephone	41:47
	and the casual shopping center meetings.	41:51
	Lovely letter, lovely girl years ago at Queens,	41:56
	now well-placed indeed, and happy except	42:01
	for that between the lines, nearly every line:	42:05
	"I'm not worthy."	42:11
	Three terribly mistyped pages from an East Carolina pastor:	42:14
	"If only I could be born again.	42:21
	I am my wife's makeshift son.	42:24
	The mice are running me over.	42:29
	Guts I lack. I lack, I am."	42:33
	And at the other extreme,	42:41
	a dear and effective neighbor pastor,	42:43
	terminally ill with leukemia, still working,	42:47
	accuses himself to me of not dying well.	42:52
	A psychiatrist in Michigan: "Can you give us information	42:58
	about so-and-so and your appraisal of the base	43:02
	of his self accusation and hyper-activism?"	43:05
	Another psychiatrist in Maine:	43:11
	"Please give us your evaluation	43:14
	of why does this frontline varsity type so despise himself?"	43:16
	A young woman in state hospital, I've never seen her,	43:24
	so frustrated she creates her own pregnancy	43:29
	and had bought a layette before her parents discovered	43:33
	she is physically barren.	43:37
	But, so guilty in her own mind, writes how she hates me	43:40
	for what she thought I had done to her father until she read	43:47
	in an old book of mine what I had done for Judas	43:52
	and now she loves me.	43:57
	Her father, a mountain, beautifully simple suffering man	44:00
	who had written me, quote:	44:06
	"God is the worst thing that ever came into my life."	44:08
	My special, very special, six year old correspondent,	44:14
	reared in all but perfect permissiveness,	44:19
	Peter already intensely aware of his spelling imperfections.	44:23
	Add on all your stuff, dragged into	44:30
	and out of some sanctuary as this for years.	44:35
	And then, repeat after me,	44:42
	"God sent not the fruit of Mary's womb into the world	44:44
	to condemn the world."	44:47
	Rather say it with me,	44:50
	"God sent not the fruit of Mary's womb into the world	44:52
	to condemn the world."	44:57
	Believe it, if you can.	45:01
	And then you must ask:	45:03
	"Then who laid all this guilt on me then?"	45:06
	There's plenty of condemnation around, but not from Christ.	45:11
	Who laid all this condemning in our laps?	45:17
	If not Christ, then who?	45:21
	If God sent not the fruit of Mary's womb	45:24
	into the world to condemn us,	45:27
	if St Paul's "There is therefore now no condemnation	45:30
	to them that are in Christo," if this is believable at all,	45:34
	who laid it on us?	45:42
	Answer: a version of Christianity laid it	45:45
	on us all over Western Christendom, a bad version.	45:48
	By the sixth century Christian era,	45:55
	nearly all the great conciliar groupings	45:57
	into the meaning of the personhood of God	46:01
	and us had been blunted by the understanding	46:04
	of man as sinner.	46:08
	It came early.	46:12
	By the early fourth century, if in mid-sermon,	46:13
	Augustine said "Confiteor" in any context	46:18
	of joy or grief or need,	46:24
	the rumble of the congregation beating its breast	46:27
	would actually interrupt the sermon to his great anger.	46:31
	But, in the west,	46:37
	we passed over the incredible particularity	46:39
	and singularity of human personhood, which is Jewish genius.	46:43
	Socrates never arrived at it.	46:50
	His individual is universal man.	46:52
	Jesus arrives at the unique flavor of individuality.	46:56
	This the fruit of Mary's womb demonstrated.	47:01
	But, Western Christendom reduced the question	47:05
	"What is man, that thou art mindful of him?"	47:09
	To the question, "What is man as sinner?"	47:13
	So, for at least 14 of the 20 centuries	47:18
	in which we have been de-Judaizing ourselves,	47:23
	so-called Christian anthropology has focused	47:28
	on the human as sinner.	47:32
	And our greatest impoverishment is our limited notion	47:37
	of the human and, its corollary,	47:41
	our limited idea of redemption.	47:46
	So, in short, we get our condemnation, not from the Christ,	47:52
	but from a culture shaped by a limited Christianity.	47:57
	To sum it: We got our self-condemnatory stance in part	48:01
	from the blessed saints.	48:06
	Not even Saint Augustan escaped.	48:10
	10 days of dying,	48:12
	his eyes glued to the penitential psalms nailed to the wall	48:15
	of the little cell in which he dies.	48:20
	We learned our condemnation, too, from the blessed Anselm,	48:24
	whose 11th century meditations were still being printed	48:28
	in English 600 years later for little Christian girls	48:32
	in England to spend their Sunday afternoons reading aloud.	48:37
	Indeed, in an English version from 1704,	48:43
	given to us for Christmas by Lib Dowd and inscribed:	48:48
	"Elizabeth Ray, her book, 1709,"	48:54
	I find her markings where Anselm says,	49:00
	"I can't look upon my past life without horror.	49:04
	When examined it shows me nothing but sin or barrenness.	49:08
	I am the scorn and scandal of my species;	49:12
	more vile than the beasts that perish;	49:16
	more filthy and noisome than a carcass already putrefied;	49:19
	and Jesus, the blessed Jesus.	49:25
	This is He, the judge at whom I tremble." Oh my God.	49:27
	And in the same old leathern volume, from Bernard,	49:34
	"Jesus, The Very Thought of Thee" Bernard, we read, quote:	49:38
	"The ghastliness and deformity that I discover	49:44
	in me make me a perfect monster and a terror to myself	49:47
	since every corner of my heart is a cage of unclean birds."	49:53
	And so it goes for 200 pages.	50:01
	If God sent not the fruit of Mary's womb to condemn us,	50:05
	where did we learn to be so guilty?	50:09
	Well, we learned it from the saints	50:15
	and the bloomin' theologians and stupid pastors	50:18
	and the opportunistic, manipulative evangelists	50:25
	under which most of us got baptized in one way or another.	50:28
	We learned it from our first teachers and our neighbors	50:33
	and our playmates and all our companions	50:38
	of the long drawn out confusion.	50:41
	Everybody lays it on us.	50:45
	From our culture of expectations and the poverty	50:48
	of our Anglo-Saxon and Mediterranean forebears,	50:52
	from Madison Avenue and the media	50:56
	and courts and law and mores.	50:59
	And, just this winter, I was made to feel both guilty	51:02
	and shamed, if not stupid,	51:06
	because I had already had my swine flu shots.	51:09
	(audience laughs)	51:14
	Now, if the Christ does not condemn us,	51:17
	but we keep laying it on us, the question comes immediately:	51:20
	What do we get out of being so guilty?	51:26
	What is this colossal indulgence?	51:31
	The net profit for us in this culture-wide acceptance	51:35
	of our condemnation for mere sin is the great evasion.	51:39
	First and blatantly, sin really is so much less	51:47
	than the evil and we can't escape responsibility	51:51
	for colossal evil only by admitting to petty sins.	51:57
	So, we list concupiscence and envy and greed	52:04
	and all our legal, penal, educational, religious,	52:09
	governmental, and commercial systems are geared	52:13
	to deal with our sinfulness,	52:17
	but none is really set up to deal with evil.	52:21
	Hence it is that war, famine, pestilence, premature death	52:27
	ride all but unimpeded.	52:36
	What could happen if we Christians	52:41
	became responsibly guilty?	52:43
	Guilty of earth's real crimes: War; famine; pestilence;	52:48
	death; mass crimes; mass guilt;	52:56
	structural, institutional, systematic guilt.	53:01
	What could happen if we quit using	53:08
	our childhood gardens sins	53:10
	to escape our responsibility for colossal evil?	53:14
	Swiftly now, might this not thrust upon us	53:21
	the broader notion of humankind and maturity	53:26
	and our mobility toward possibility for a fairer earth	53:32
	than that we fled centuries ago when we learned	53:39
	to give total allegiance to property?	53:44
	What if we should now be forced to face the real enemy?	53:51
	What if we discovered within us a new capacity	53:56
	for wishing, willing, deciding?	54:01
	What if we took seriously those 19th century thinkers	54:06
	of ours in America who began to try	54:10
	to show us a new locus for evil?	54:13
	Not just, as Jim McCord put it last summer in Princeton,	54:18
	evil not just in our human hearts,	54:23
	but evil in the very structures of our society.	54:27
	They tried to tell us that all through the late 1800s.	54:33
	Dear Rosebush even claimed a dairy	54:38
	or a newspaper could be converted, given a proper witness.	54:41
	Could we not, with elan and encouragement,	54:47
	let these foolish structures all go	54:50
	before a new recognition of humanity as our goal?	54:54
	A humanity beyond war, famine, pestilence, death.	54:59
	This is a gerundively-modified theology,	55:05
	not an adjectivally-modified one,	55:10
	like white or black or Christian or German or Southern.	55:14
	This is liberation theology! This is wholeness.	55:18
	This is Imago Christi.	55:25
	We are viators, being made able	55:28
	to stand against the real enemy.	55:35
	And it rests on the reality of grace, community, relation,	55:39
	responsible guilt, expectation.	55:46
	And what a penny cost it could be if we realized	55:50
	and accepted the implications of the "God sent not the fruit	55:55
	of Mary's womb to condemn the world."	56:01
	This would mean that we would quit saying	56:06
	that our petty misdemeanors crucified Jesus.	56:10
	We would rather see and say with,	56:15
	William Stringfellow and host of the rest of us,	56:19
	that, in crucifixion, we saw and see the triumph	56:24
	of the structures of society that have found war,	56:29
	famine, pestilence, and death to be useful and still do.	56:35
	We would begin to see, in resurrection,	56:43
	the triumph of our species in standing above war, famine,	56:47
	pestilence, and premature death.	56:53
	And we would begin to feel, in Pentecost,	56:56
	that we are empowered to participate in that full humanity,	57:01
	which has, as its proper place in creation,	57:09
	the calling to stand over against the true evil and triumph	57:13
	and we could recover our place in creation.	57:20
	In the notion of dear Kazantzakis,	57:25
	we would be resurrecting Christ.	57:28
	Once, years ago, two dear 13 year old women,	57:35
	now they're grown, asked me outside the study door,	57:43
	why the Christ did not come again?	57:49
	As always, I took such theologians seriously and tried	57:54
	to answer them in a sermon.	57:58
	I said, "Because we have not yet caught on	58:00
	to that first coming."	58:04
	But, I now add, "But, he did not come to condemn us."	58:08
	Sometimes I have to turn to some great pagan	58:16
	to help me understand and realize	58:21
	what such a triumph over petty guilt would mean.	58:25
	Last September, my last visit to my great friend,	58:32
	Kuykendall, pagan, rancher,	58:37
	eight gold polo handicap in his youth,	58:42
	hunter of everything he could use,	58:48
	from the coon who killed his quail	58:51
	to the 12 foot cat I've seen him drag out of a pickup,	58:54
	which had been carrying off his calves in Mexico	58:58
	and Bill didn't like that.	59:02
	Pagan, I say, master sinner, Mexican cook.	59:04
	150 years he sat, on the same spread, dying now,	59:11
	cancer-ridden spleen, liver, and stomach,	59:17
	great hulk shrunken, nothing on his stomach for three weeks,	59:21
	waving off all artificial life support,	59:27
	while I'm sitting by, and he calls to Maria, his 84 year old	59:32
	and still barefooted Yaki cook, "Bring me chili."	59:37
	He believed he could hold it down and did.	59:45
	Alice, striking wife of 46 years sitting on the bed foot	59:51
	and dying, Bill talks.	59:56
	Of what? His sins, many, and the neighbors said, gross.	1:00:00
	Though, as Bill always said, "I was never indicted."	1:00:08
	Why no, no, no.	1:00:13
	He talks with Alice and me about his mother,	1:00:18
	dead nearly 80 years.	1:00:24
	"What a person," he said of her.	1:00:27
	Widowed in his infancy, she had taught him	1:00:31
	everything a woman knows to do in a home	1:00:36
	and all anybody knows to do on a horse or a ranch.	1:00:40
	How he had adored her	1:00:46
	and had turned a South Texas wilderness	1:00:49
	into an English park because he loved his mother	1:00:52
	and creation and knew himself to be part of mother	1:00:57
	and creation and nature, too, and his time had come.	1:01:03
	To salute this ego maturity with tears,	1:01:11
	a day or so later, I had to recall what Armand Nicholi	1:01:19
	at Harvard had used to describe inner peace.	1:01:23
	He had said that if you can love across a long span,	1:01:29
	if you have a clear concept of real right and wrong	1:01:37
	and are able to stand to being wrong.	1:01:44
	If you have a growing sense of your eye with responsibility	1:01:50
	for finishing creation and if you accept the reality terms	1:01:57
	of your own death, then you, like Kuykendall,	1:02:05
	are approaching true humanhood.	1:02:12
	What a model we have for this.	1:02:17
	Don't let the innocence of Mary's baby, put you off on this.	1:02:22
	Nothing incites us more than the refusal	1:02:30
	of innocence to condemn us.	1:02:33
	Nothing upsets us more	1:02:37
	than when innocence will not condemn us.	1:02:40
	This is one reason why so many of the innocent,	1:02:43
	both babies and the aging, are battered.	1:02:48
	We just can't bear innocence.	1:02:54
	We can hardly bear the innocent that lays no guilt on us.	1:02:58
	But, what a lead.	1:03:05
	What a lead toward mature guilt	1:03:08
	that sees the real issue we have in Jesus.	1:03:11
	Let us even now go to Golgotha and see.	1:03:19
	(upbeat organ music)	1:03:35
	(choir drowned out by organ)	1:04:00
	(gentle organ)	1:06:44
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:08:19
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:08:28
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:08:34
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:08:40
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:08:44
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:08:47
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:08:52
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:08:57
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:09:02
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:09:07
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:09:12
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:09:17
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:09:22
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:09:27
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:09:32
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:09:37
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:09:42
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:09:47
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:09:57
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:10:02
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:10:07
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:10:12
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:10:17
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:10:22
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:10:27
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:10:32
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:10:37
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:10:42
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:10:47
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:10:52
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:10:58
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:11:03
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:11:08
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:11:13
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:11:18
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:11:23
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:11:28
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:11:33
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:11:38
	♪ Alleluia ♪	1:11:46
	♪ Alleluia ♪	1:11:57
	♪ Alleluia ♪	1:12:08
	♪ Alleluia ♪	1:12:23
	♪ Alleluia ♪	1:12:34
	(gentle organ music)	1:12:53
	(organ drowns out sings)	1:13:21
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:13:33
	(organ drowns out singers)	1:13:41
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:13:53
	♪ Alleluia, alleluia ♪	1:13:59
	♪ Alleluia ♪	1:14:05
	♪ Alleluia ♪	1:14:13
-	Oh, holy God, we offer these gifts for your glory	1:14:25
	and in memory of one who was obedient to you.	1:14:33
	Our prayers are that these monies will enable others to grow	1:14:39
	in grace and knowledge and truth	1:14:44
	and become better equipped to serve you.	1:14:48
	We offer these prayers in the spirit of the risen Lord.	1:14:53
	Amen.	1:14:58
	(upbeat organ music)	1:15:03
	(choir singing drowned out by organ)	1:15:42
	The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God	1:18:38
	and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you	1:18:45
	this day and forever more.	1:18:50
	♪ Amen ♪	1:18:54
	♪ Amen ♪	1:18:58
	♪ Amen ♪	1:19:03
	♪ Amen ♪	1:19:10
	♪ Amen ♪	1:19:15
	♪ Amen ♪	1:19:22
	♪ Amen ♪	1:19:34
	(upbeat organ music)	1:19:53

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Carlyle Marney - "Not to Condemn" (April 17, 1977)

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April 17, 1977

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Marney, Carlyle, 1916-1978

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