William H. Willimon - "Letting God Be God" (August 23, 1987)
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(singing in foreign language) | 0:00 | |
- | Good morning and welcome to this service | 7:47 |
of worship, here at Duke Chapel. | 7:49 | |
We thank Mr. Jay Hill, student at the Duke Law School, | 7:51 | |
and member of our chapel choir, for his music, | 7:55 | |
and we are glad to have you with us today. | 7:58 | |
We hope that everyone in the congregation | 8:02 | |
will fill out the information card that is in the bulletin. | 8:03 | |
We're seeking information about the composition | 8:10 | |
of our chapel congregation. | 8:14 | |
We'd like each person to fill out one of those cards, | 8:16 | |
and to drop it in the offering plate | 8:19 | |
when the offering is received. | 8:20 | |
There's some pencils in the pew racks | 8:23 | |
if you need some pencils to use. | 8:25 | |
If, for some reason, you didn't get one of the cards, | 8:28 | |
we hope you'll, at the close of the service pick up one | 8:30 | |
at the hostess's desk at the back of the chapel, | 8:33 | |
and will fill one out. | 8:38 | |
And we will be grateful, not only if you'll fill out | 8:40 | |
the information, but if you're willing to complete | 8:42 | |
a short questionnaire about worship in the chapel. | 8:45 | |
If you'll fill out your name and address, | 8:48 | |
and in a few weeks, a questionnaire will be mailed to you. | 8:50 | |
And we thank you for your help. | 8:53 | |
And now let us continue our worship | 8:56 | |
as we praise the living God. | 8:59 | |
(organ music) | 9:03 | |
♪ Praise to the living God ♪ | 9:43 | |
♪ All praise to be his name ♪ | 9:48 | |
♪ Who was, and is, and is to be ♪ | 9:52 | |
♪ God still the same ♪ | 9:58 | |
♪ The one eternal God ♪ | 10:03 | |
♪ Before what now appears ♪ | 10:08 | |
♪ The first, the last, beyond all thought ♪ | 10:13 | |
♪ His timeless years ♪ | 10:18 | |
♪ His Spirit floweth free ♪ | 10:25 | |
♪ High surging where it will ♪ | 10:31 | |
♪ In prophet's word he spoke of old ♪ | 10:36 | |
♪ A speaker still ♪ | 10:41 | |
♪ Established is His law ♪ | 10:47 | |
♪ And changeless it shall stand ♪ | 10:51 | |
♪ Deep written on the human heart ♪ | 10:56 | |
♪ On sea, on land ♪ | 11:02 | |
♪ He has eternal life ♪ | 11:10 | |
♪ Implanted in the soul ♪ | 11:15 | |
♪ His love shall be our strength and stay ♪ | 11:20 | |
♪ While ages roll ♪ | 11:25 | |
♪ Praise to the living God ♪ | 11:30 | |
♪ All praise to be his name ♪ | 11:35 | |
♪ Who was, and is, and is to be, ♪ | 11:40 | |
♪ God still the same ♪ | 11:46 | |
- | O incomparable and everlasting God. | 11:56 |
You are incomprehensible in your creation, | 12:00 | |
and yet, you are even more incomprehensible | 12:03 | |
in your grace and in your mercy. | 12:07 | |
Our knowledge is feeble and veils your splendor. | 12:10 | |
What are we that your son would come | 12:15 | |
into the world because of us? | 12:17 | |
Not to judge us, but to love us and save us, | 12:20 | |
the Christ who had no place to lay his head, | 12:24 | |
who knew hunger in the desert and thirst on the cross. | 12:27 | |
Oh incomparable, everlasting and merciful God, | 12:33 | |
draw us unto yourself in this hour, as we lift hearts | 12:36 | |
and voices unto you in praise and worship, | 12:41 | |
through Christ our lord, amen. | 12:46 | |
- | Remain standing please, and join me | 12:54 |
in praying the prayer for illumination. | 12:56 | |
Let us pray. | 12:58 | |
Open our hearts and minds, oh God. | 13:01 | |
By the power of your Holy Spirit, | 13:03 | |
so that as the word is read and proclaimed, | 13:06 | |
we might hear with joy what you say to us this day, amen. | 13:10 | |
Our psalter this morning is the first eight verses | 13:17 | |
of Psalm 138, and may be found in page 599 | 13:19 | |
in the rear of the hymnal. | 13:25 | |
May we read it together responsively. | 13:27 | |
I give thee thanks, O Lord, with my whole heart. | 13:36 | |
Congregation | Before the gods I sing Him praise. | 13:40 |
William | I bow down toward thy holy temple | 13:43 |
and give thanks to thy name | 13:46 | |
for thy steadfast love and thy faithfulness. | 13:48 | |
Congregation | For thy have exalted thy name, | 13:51 |
thy name and thy word. | 13:54 | |
William | On the day I called, thou didst answer me, | 13:57 |
Congregation | My strength of soul was increased. | 13:59 |
William | All the kings of the earth | 14:04 |
shall praise thee, O Lord. | 14:05 | |
Congregation | For they have heard | 14:07 |
the words of thy mouth. | 14:09 | |
William | And they shall sing of the ways of the Lord. | 14:11 |
Congregation | For great is the glory of the Lord. | 14:14 |
William | For though the Lord is high, | 14:17 |
he regards the lowly. | 14:19 | |
Congregation | But the haughty he perceives from far. | 14:21 |
William | Though I walk in the midst of trouble, | 14:24 |
thou doth preserve my life. | 14:27 | |
Congregation | Thou stretch out thy hand | 14:30 |
and smite my enemies, and thy right hand delivers me. | 14:32 | |
William | The Lord will fulfill his purpose for me. | 14:37 |
Congregation | Thy steadfast love, O Lord, | 14:40 |
endures forever. | 14:43 | |
(organ music) | 14:44 | |
♪ Glory be to our creator ♪ | 14:52 | |
♪ Praise to our Redeemer ♪ | 14:58 | |
♪ Glory be to our Sustainer ♪ | 15:06 | |
♪ Ever three and ever one ♪ | 15:12 | |
♪ As it was in the beginning now ♪ | 15:20 | |
♪ And evermore shall be ♪ | 15:28 | |
- | You may be seated. | 15:37 |
The epistle is taken from Paul's letter to the Romans. | 15:43 | |
O the depth of the riches and wisdom | 15:47 | |
and knowledge of God. | 15:49 | |
How unsearchable are His judgements, | 15:51 | |
and how inscrutable are His ways. | 15:54 | |
For who has known the mind of the Lord, | 15:56 | |
or who has been his counselor? | 15:59 | |
Or who has given him a gift that he might be repaid? | 16:02 | |
For from Him, and through Him, and to him are all things. | 16:07 | |
To Him the glory forever, amen. | 16:13 | |
This ends the reading of the epistle. | 16:17 | |
The gospel was taken from Matthew. | 16:20 | |
Now when Jesus came into the district | 16:24 | |
of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, | 16:26 | |
"Who do men say that the son of man is?" | 16:30 | |
And they said, "Some say John the Baptist, | 16:33 | |
"others say Elijah, and others, Jeremiah, | 16:37 | |
"or one of the prophets." | 16:41 | |
He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" | 16:44 | |
Simon Peter replied, "You are the Christ, | 16:49 | |
"the Son of the living God." | 16:52 | |
And Jesus answered him, "Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, | 16:55 | |
"for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, | 17:01 | |
"but My Father who is in heaven. | 17:05 | |
"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock | 17:08 | |
"will I build My church, and the powers of death | 17:12 | |
"shall not prevail against it." | 17:15 | |
This ends the reading of the gospel. | 17:18 | |
(organ music) | 17:31 | |
♪ I will lift mine eyes up to the mountains ♪ | 17:37 | |
♪ Whence cometh my help ♪ | 17:51 | |
♪ My help cometh from God ♪ | 18:07 | |
♪ Who hath made the earth and the heavens ♪ | 18:14 | |
♪ He will not suffer thy feet to be moveth ♪ | 18:34 | |
♪ Nor thy steps to stumble ♪ | 18:41 | |
♪ He that keepeth thee will not slumber ♪ | 18:49 | |
♪ Behold the keeper of Israel is he ♪ | 19:00 | |
♪ That slumbers not, nor sleeps ♪ | 19:11 | |
♪ God is my shepherd ♪ | 19:47 | |
♪ I want for nothing ♪ | 19:56 | |
♪ My rest is in a pleasant meadows ♪ | 20:03 | |
♪ He leadeth me where quiet waters flow ♪ | 20:10 | |
♪ My fainting soul doth he restore ♪ | 20:23 | |
♪ And guideth me in the ways of peace ♪ | 20:29 | |
♪ To glorify his name ♪ | 20:35 | |
♪ And though in death's dark valley ♪ | 20:47 | |
♪ My steps must wander ♪ | 20:52 | |
♪ My spirit shall not fear ♪ | 20:59 | |
♪ For thou art by me still ♪ | 21:04 | |
♪ My rod and staff are with me ♪ | 21:15 | |
♪ And they shall comfort me ♪ | 21:21 | |
- | The late and very beloved Dean of Duke Chapel, | 21:55 |
Jim Cleland, was once asked what he thought about | 21:59 | |
the practice of having children's sermons. | 22:05 | |
And in response, Jim told a story. | 22:10 | |
I think I've told it before, | 22:12 | |
but I'll tell it again. | 22:14 | |
Jim said there was once a preacher that just loved | 22:17 | |
to give children's sermons, and thought | 22:19 | |
that he gave them quite well. | 22:21 | |
And he, during the service, invited all the boys and girls | 22:22 | |
to come down front, and he began his children's sermon | 22:26 | |
by asking them, "Boys and girls, who can tell me | 22:29 | |
"what it is that lives in a tree and has a bushy tail, | 22:35 | |
"and eats nuts?" | 22:39 | |
One of the little boys said, "God." | 22:41 | |
(congregation laughs) | 22:44 | |
Everything broke up into hysterics, he had to have a prayer, | 22:45 | |
and send the children back to their seats. | 22:49 | |
It was a disaster. | 22:51 | |
The end of the worship service, as everyone was filing | 22:54 | |
out of the church, he pulled the little boy aside, | 22:56 | |
and he says, "Look kid, why did you answer God | 23:01 | |
"when I asked you that question about squirrels?" | 23:05 | |
Little boy looked up at the preacher and he said, | 23:09 | |
"Look, you're a preacher, right? | 23:11 | |
"This is church, right? | 23:13 | |
"You're supposed to be talking about God, not squirrels." | 23:14 | |
(congregation laughs) | 23:17 | |
That relates to the scripture for the day, and the sermon. | 23:21 | |
We're gonna talk about God. | 23:27 | |
For this is what Paul does so beautifully | 23:30 | |
in the letter to the Romans. | 23:32 | |
O the depth of the riches and the wisdom | 23:34 | |
and knowledge of God. | 23:37 | |
How unsearchable are his judgements. | 23:39 | |
How inscrutable his ways. | 23:43 | |
For who has known the mind of the Lord? | 23:46 | |
Or who has been his counselor? | 23:49 | |
Or who has given a gift to God that he might be repaid? | 23:52 | |
For from him, and through him, and to him are all things. | 23:57 | |
To him the glory forever, amen. | 24:02 | |
Now if I really meant to preach this text | 24:07 | |
from Romans rightly, I suppose I shouldn't preach it at all. | 24:09 | |
I should try to sing it, because that's what it is, | 24:13 | |
you know, it's a doxology. | 24:18 | |
It's a hymn that's stuck right here in the middle | 24:20 | |
of Paul's letter to the Romans. | 24:23 | |
It appears out of nowhere, a bit of a hymn. | 24:25 | |
I'm not going to sing it, though. | 24:30 | |
I'm grateful enough that you'll sit for my sermon | 24:31 | |
without testing your patience. | 24:34 | |
Most theologians and most preachers whom I know | 24:37 | |
are just not very good musicians. | 24:39 | |
And that's unfortunate sometimes, because there are times, | 24:43 | |
and there is truth, often the very deepest of truth, | 24:48 | |
that just can't be preached, or reasoned, or argued. | 24:53 | |
It's got to be sung to be done right. | 24:57 | |
Here is Paul, in his letter to the Romans, one of Paul's | 25:01 | |
most mature, closely reasoned theological documents. | 25:05 | |
Paul has been going on and on for some 10 chapters | 25:10 | |
about the unsearchable judgements, | 25:13 | |
and the inscrutable grace of God. | 25:18 | |
Someone has asked at the church in Rome, | 25:22 | |
what about the Jews? | 25:26 | |
Those who do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah? | 25:29 | |
Someone else has asked, what about the Gentiles, | 25:34 | |
who have no claim upon the promises of the Jews? | 25:37 | |
Paul's response in a nutshell, | 25:42 | |
is that God's grace is so amazing | 25:45 | |
that it has room even for those in Israel | 25:50 | |
who do not see what we see, | 25:53 | |
even for the Gentiles. | 25:56 | |
Even for those who are sinful and disobedient, Paul says, | 26:00 | |
there is a place in God's great heart, even for them. | 26:06 | |
Even in our sin and disobedience, in God's great hand, | 26:11 | |
says Paul, this is an occasion for grace. | 26:15 | |
And then, as if he's overcome by the thought, | 26:20 | |
as if he cannot stand this prosaic argumentation any longer, | 26:25 | |
Paul breaks into song. | 26:31 | |
Gladys, get over there on the piano. | 26:33 | |
This thing is better sung than said. | 26:34 | |
Okay, who is smart enough to know the mind of God? | 26:37 | |
Have any of us given a gift to God that we could be repaid? | 26:40 | |
Everybody on the chorus, O the depth, the riches, | 26:43 | |
the wisdom, the knowledge of God, | 26:47 | |
how unsearchable his judgements, how inscrutable his ways. | 26:49 | |
Thank you Gladys, not let's get on with the sermon. | 26:55 | |
As I said at the beginning of the service, | 27:01 | |
we're going to do a survey about attitudes | 27:02 | |
about worship among those who worship here in the chapel. | 27:06 | |
And I wouldn't be a bit surprised when the questionnaires | 27:10 | |
are back in, that it is the music of the organ and the choir | 27:13 | |
that fills this place on Sunday morning, not the sermons. | 27:20 | |
Because you know, if you expose yourself to the greatness | 27:25 | |
of God, if you dare on Sunday morning to bring yourself | 27:30 | |
into the presence of the living God, | 27:34 | |
a doxology is more important | 27:39 | |
than a theological dissertation. | 27:42 | |
For prose cracks and strains under the weight of such | 27:46 | |
divine majesty and glory, such inscrutability. | 27:51 | |
I want to argue with a person who says he feels closer | 27:58 | |
to God when he's out on the golf course | 28:00 | |
on Sunday morning than sitting in a sanctuary. | 28:02 | |
I want to argue with the person who says | 28:06 | |
she feels more in touch with the divine | 28:07 | |
as she's sailing in her boat over the waves | 28:10 | |
than listening to a sermon. | 28:13 | |
But in a way, they're right. | 28:15 | |
For how petty, and puny, and foreshortened | 28:20 | |
is so much of our religion when face to face | 28:23 | |
with a living, almighty God. | 28:27 | |
For Paul it wasn't sailing along the waves, | 28:31 | |
or going up on some mountaintop | 28:34 | |
that knocked his theological socks off, | 28:36 | |
but it was confrontation with | 28:38 | |
the unbelievable love and grace of God, | 28:40 | |
whose heart was great enough for all. | 28:44 | |
A God who loved both Jew and Gentile, | 28:49 | |
who was kind to the selfish and the ungrateful. | 28:53 | |
O the depth of the riches and the wisdom of God. | 28:59 | |
And how petty and puny much that passes for religion. | 29:06 | |
One of the most effective defenses against | 29:12 | |
the incursions of God is organized religion. | 29:15 | |
The various churches have become the safest refuge from God. | 29:19 | |
I didn't say that, Malcolm Muggeridge did. | 29:27 | |
I remember hearing Carlyle Marney say from this pulpit | 29:31 | |
that there are four kinds of religion | 29:35 | |
let loose in America that can and should die. | 29:36 | |
The merely emotional, the merely moral, | 29:42 | |
the merely therapeutic, and the merely intellectual. | 29:47 | |
Your God is too small, JB Phillips | 29:54 | |
told an earlier generation. | 29:58 | |
God, resident policeman, parental hangover, | 30:00 | |
grand old man, meek and mild, heavenly bosom, | 30:04 | |
pale Galilean, projected image, little god standing | 30:08 | |
in the place of the real God, said Phillips. | 30:12 | |
In today's gospel, from Matthew, | 30:17 | |
Jesus turns to his disciples and says, | 30:22 | |
"Who do people say that I am?" | 30:25 | |
And the disciples respond, well, Jesus, some say | 30:28 | |
that you're a great prophet, and others say | 30:32 | |
that you're maybe John the Baptist, or Elijah, | 30:34 | |
or Jeremiah, come back from the dead. | 30:37 | |
You see what they were doing? | 30:41 | |
They were responding to Jesus on the basis | 30:44 | |
of what they already knew. | 30:46 | |
They were trying to explain Jesus on the basis | 30:49 | |
of their conventional expectations | 30:51 | |
for how God was supposed to act. | 30:54 | |
Trying to tag Jesus by labeling him | 30:56 | |
with what they already knew. | 31:00 | |
He must be a prophet, or a great teacher, | 31:03 | |
or some miracle worker. | 31:05 | |
And do not we do the same? | 31:10 | |
If left to our own devices, we will define God | 31:14 | |
on the basis of what we already know, | 31:19 | |
and what we already understand, rather than as God. | 31:23 | |
God is the one who loves Israel. | 31:31 | |
God is the God of the old promises, | 31:34 | |
and the ancient books, they said in Paul's day. | 31:36 | |
God is our possession. | 31:41 | |
God is a projection of our highest human ideals. | 31:44 | |
God belongs to our nation. | 31:48 | |
God is our possession. | 31:51 | |
God is George Burns. | 31:55 | |
(congregation laughs) | 31:57 | |
Lest you be wise in your own conceit, says Paul. | 31:59 | |
I want you to understand a mystery. | 32:04 | |
God is greater than our petty boundaries. | 32:09 | |
A person came out of Duke Chapel last summer, | 32:17 | |
a person from California, | 32:20 | |
at the end of the service, and she complained | 32:23 | |
that she felt uncomfortable, pained during the service. | 32:26 | |
I asked her to be more specific. | 32:33 | |
And she said something to the effect | 32:36 | |
that the service was so triumphalistic, | 32:37 | |
it was so militaristic, it was so masculine. | 32:42 | |
I couldn't make sense of what she said. | 32:49 | |
My associate, Miss Ferree-Clark had just preached, | 32:51 | |
and Miss Sparks had just led the choir, | 32:55 | |
and Miss Rossman had played the organ. | 32:58 | |
I had been allowed to have a little prayer, | 33:01 | |
but surely that couldn't have ruined the whole service. | 33:02 | |
(congregation laughs) | 33:05 | |
Well it was that hymn, she said. | 33:08 | |
That hymn you began with, that lift high the cross. | 33:09 | |
It was so triumphalistic. | 33:13 | |
It was so militaristic. | 33:16 | |
It was so masculine. | 33:17 | |
My Jesus, she said, is affirming, and accepting, | 33:21 | |
and loving, and inclusive. | 33:25 | |
God is a California Cooler, I said. | 33:30 | |
Well, you're in North Carolina, and we believe | 33:35 | |
in taking this thing straight. | 33:37 | |
(congregation laughs) | 33:39 | |
But what are we to do? | 33:40 | |
That Sunday, Miss Ferree-Clark had preached | 33:42 | |
on the parable of the rich fool, | 33:45 | |
and it made me downright uncomfortable. | 33:47 | |
Miss Sparks had led an anthem which said in poetry | 33:50 | |
over and over again, God is greater than any of you. | 33:53 | |
The building, the organ, everything had conspired | 33:57 | |
to make us feel small in the presence of such greatness. | 34:04 | |
As a critique of the ways the gender dominated ideology | 34:10 | |
corrupts theology, then feminist theology is helpful. | 34:16 | |
But when used as another excuse to turn God | 34:23 | |
into a projection of our own egos, | 34:27 | |
feminist theology is wrong. | 34:31 | |
But isn't this what we always do? | 34:35 | |
I take my cherished values, I pump them up, | 34:39 | |
I inflate them, and I call that God. | 34:41 | |
God, | 34:45 | |
in a bourgeois culture which places a premium | 34:48 | |
on affirmation, and value neutral ethics, | 34:52 | |
and tolerance for everything, | 34:55 | |
God will be reduced | 34:59 | |
to the great Rogerian therapist in the sky, | 35:01 | |
that approves of everything and damns nothing. | 35:04 | |
Sunday worship will be another attempt | 35:09 | |
by a soothing preacher and a smooth-voiced choir | 35:13 | |
to get God tamed by noon. | 35:16 | |
"Who do people say that I am?", says Jesus. | 35:21 | |
And we respond, some say that you're a source | 35:25 | |
of American virtue, someone who's helpful | 35:29 | |
to keep the kids in line. | 35:31 | |
Others say that you're a leftist | 35:34 | |
revolutionary in combat fatigues. | 35:36 | |
Others say that you're a teacher of great, | 35:41 | |
noble eternal truths. | 35:44 | |
Some people down in Charlotte say that you're | 35:46 | |
the source of material well being. | 35:48 | |
"Who do you way that I am?", says Jesus. | 35:52 | |
But occasionally, thank God, | 35:59 | |
occasionally, | 36:04 | |
when you're in the middle of Sunday morning, | 36:06 | |
or you're in the middle of some theological discussion, | 36:10 | |
or some little something gives your life a glimmer | 36:16 | |
of that mysterious, unfathomable grace | 36:22 | |
which upholds your every waking moment, | 36:26 | |
the great, loving, inscrutable God gets through to you, | 36:32 | |
invades your life, and demands to be taken, | 36:39 | |
not as a projection of you at your best, | 36:43 | |
but as some holy other leading you | 36:48 | |
to a place you've never even been. | 36:51 | |
And then words are not enough, and you just want to sing. | 36:56 | |
I wish that happened more often here in the chapel. | 37:04 | |
But you see, you have a preacher who's uncomfortable | 37:08 | |
with seeing you get too worked up, | 37:11 | |
and you're in a setting where people | 37:15 | |
just don't like to be confused by things they can't explain. | 37:16 | |
But occasionally, even here, especially here, | 37:22 | |
occasionally, the great living, inscrutable God | 37:28 | |
gets through, and somebody wants to sing. | 37:34 | |
A while back, a person told me that he was losing his faith. | 37:42 | |
What is the faith that you're losing, I ask. | 37:47 | |
And he said, well, I no longer believe | 37:49 | |
in the virgin birth of Jesus, and I know that I've got to | 37:51 | |
get past this in order to be a real Christian. | 37:54 | |
And I said, I stand with Paul on this matter | 37:59 | |
of the virgin birth of Jesus. | 38:03 | |
What did Paul say, he asked. | 38:06 | |
I said, well go home in look it up. | 38:07 | |
When you find something, call me back collect. | 38:09 | |
And then I assured him, look, if you stay a Christian, | 38:14 | |
as I expect that you will, you're gonna have | 38:19 | |
a lot worse things to overcome | 38:24 | |
than the virgin birth of Jesus. | 38:25 | |
I mean, before we're done with you, we're gonna have | 38:28 | |
you try to believe that the meek will inherit the earth, | 38:30 | |
and that the poor are royalty, | 38:35 | |
and that you should turn the other cheek. | 38:39 | |
I mean, you've just begun to be confused by the gospel. | 38:42 | |
O the depth and riches and wisdom and knowledge of God. | 38:48 | |
How unsearchable are his judgments. | 38:52 | |
How inscrutable his ways. | 38:54 | |
Now when I was in seminary in the sixties, | 38:59 | |
I was in a church history class. | 39:03 | |
We had in a Russian Orthodox priest, named Father Theotokos, | 39:04 | |
who was to come in and to give us a lecture | 39:10 | |
on the development of the creeds | 39:12 | |
in the history of the church. | 39:14 | |
At the end of his lecture, an earnest student asked him, | 39:16 | |
Father Theotokos, you've told us about the creeds, | 39:22 | |
but I want to know, how is it possible to affirm | 39:25 | |
the creed, even when you don't understand it, | 39:30 | |
even when you have trouble believing parts of it. | 39:33 | |
Father Theotokos looked a little confused. | 39:37 | |
He said, well, what is so difficult, you just say the creed. | 39:40 | |
I believe in God the Father almighty, | 39:46 | |
the maker of heaven and earth. | 39:48 | |
It's simple, anyone can learn it easily. | 39:49 | |
The student persisted. | 39:52 | |
He says, no, wait a minute. | 39:53 | |
I'm saying, how can I, with integrity, affirm things | 39:54 | |
like the virgin birth, even when I don't believe it? | 39:59 | |
Father Theotokos was getting a little aggravated. | 40:05 | |
He said, I'm saying we don't care whether you believe | 40:07 | |
it or not, all we want you to do is just say it. | 40:11 | |
It is the church that believes it, not you. | 40:14 | |
Who are you? | 40:16 | |
(congregation laughs) | ||
The student persisted. | 40:19 | |
He said, how, with integrity, | 40:20 | |
can I affirm things I do not believe? | 40:22 | |
Father Theotokos came back at him, | 40:27 | |
and he said, how old are you? | 40:29 | |
And he said, I'm 23. | 40:31 | |
Father Theotokos looked relieved. | 40:35 | |
He said, ah, that explains it. | 40:36 | |
You're still ignorant. | 40:38 | |
(congregation laughs) | 40:40 | |
He said, just keep saying it. | 40:42 | |
It will come to you. | 40:43 | |
For some it takes longer than for others, | 40:45 | |
and even if it doesn't come to you, | 40:49 | |
that's okay, it doesn't make it any less true, | 40:52 | |
whether you understand it or not. | 40:55 | |
No one expects you to know everything by 23. | 41:00 | |
That's why we have you say it on Sunday morning. | 41:04 | |
Eventually, you'll get the point. | 41:07 | |
And then he said, you see, we are dealing with God here. | 41:12 | |
We're talking about God. | 41:19 | |
Amen. | 41:24 | |
Margaret | Let us stand and unite | 41:32 |
in this confession of faith | 41:34 | |
found on page 738. | 41:39 | |
I believe in God, the father Almighty, | 41:45 | |
maker of heaven and earth. | 41:49 | |
And in Jesus Christ his only Son, our Lord, | 41:51 | |
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, | 41:54 | |
born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, | 41:58 | |
was crucified, dead, and buried. | 42:03 | |
The third day he rose from the dead, | 42:06 | |
he ascended into heaven, | 42:09 | |
and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty, | 42:11 | |
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. | 42:16 | |
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic church, | 42:20 | |
the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, | 42:24 | |
the resurrection of the body, | 42:29 | |
and the life everlasting, amen. | 42:31 | |
(organ music) | 42:37 | |
♪ I sing the mighty power of God ♪ | 43:18 | |
♪ That made the mountains rise, ♪ | 43:23 | |
♪ That spread the flowing seas abroad ♪ | 43:28 | |
♪ And built the lofty skies. ♪ | 43:33 | |
♪ I sing the wisdom that ordained ♪ | 43:38 | |
♪ The sun to rule the day ♪ | 43:43 | |
♪ The moon shines full at his command ♪ | 43:49 | |
♪ And all the stars obey ♪ | 43:54 | |
♪ I sing the goodness of the Lord ♪ | 44:01 | |
♪ That filled the earth with food ♪ | 44:07 | |
♪ He formed the creatures with his word ♪ | 44:12 | |
♪ And then pronounced them good ♪ | 44:17 | |
♪ Lord, how your wonders are displayed ♪ | 44:23 | |
♪ Where'er we turn our eyes, ♪ | 44:28 | |
♪ If I survey the ground I tread ♪ | 44:33 | |
♪ Or gaze upon the skies ♪ | 44:39 | |
♪ There's not a plant or flower below ♪ | 44:46 | |
♪ But makes thy glories known ♪ | 44:51 | |
♪ And clouds arise and tempests blow ♪ | 44:57 | |
♪ By order from thy throne ♪ | 45:02 | |
♪ While all that borrows life from thee ♪ | 45:08 | |
♪ Is ever in thy care ♪ | 45:14 | |
♪ And everywhere that I can be ♪ | 45:20 | |
♪ Thou God, are present there ♪ | 45:25 | |
- | The lord be with you. | 45:37 |
Congregation | And also with you. | 45:39 |
- | Let us pray. | 45:41 |
Most wondrous and glorious God, you are eternal, | 45:50 | |
beyond our imaginations, our understandings, our utterances, | 45:57 | |
and yet you are our help, our light, our salvation. | 46:02 | |
And we call upon you in this majestic place | 46:09 | |
because you are the God who goes before us, | 46:12 | |
who walks behind us, and who stands beside us. | 46:17 | |
We need you O God, for we are faint and weary. | 46:23 | |
Here us as we pray in these spoke words, | 46:28 | |
and in the silent words of all those listening today. | 46:31 | |
We rejoice in the escape and in the safety | 46:37 | |
of the hostage, Charles Glass. | 46:40 | |
For his faith and bravery we give thanks, and for the speedy | 46:44 | |
release of all the other prisoners we pray. | 46:49 | |
We mourn with the loved one of those who died | 46:54 | |
in the fiery crash in Detroit. | 46:57 | |
Have mercy on them and comfort them. | 47:00 | |
We are anxious for those who are in the dangerous, | 47:05 | |
treacherous waters of the Persian Gulf. | 47:08 | |
And we ask for your protection, and for a cessation | 47:13 | |
of the bitterness that causes this conflict. | 47:16 | |
We feel helpless as we look at the wars | 47:22 | |
throughout the world. | 47:24 | |
Break into that chain of hatred, meanness, and madness, | 47:26 | |
which has spilled the blood of countless | 47:31 | |
thousands throughout this globe. | 47:33 | |
Awaken our sleeping and dull spirits to action, | 47:38 | |
so that our deeds may become those | 47:42 | |
which make a difference even yet, | 47:44 | |
To the hopeless and helpless people of the world. | 47:48 | |
Arouse us to the hearts and the fears | 47:53 | |
of the dying in homes and hospitals. | 47:55 | |
Help us to feel the pain of those who are hungry, | 47:59 | |
and the pain of those who struggle to make enough | 48:02 | |
to keep bread on their tables. | 48:05 | |
May that pain in us bring a response of love. | 48:08 | |
Help us to understand the helplessness of those | 48:14 | |
whose bodies and minds are worn out from age or disease. | 48:17 | |
Help us to see the helplessness | 48:23 | |
in the eyes of the sick and the dying, | 48:25 | |
the dispossessed and the downtrodden, | 48:28 | |
and grant to us your eyes and your lips. | 48:31 | |
So that we may speak your words of love | 48:36 | |
and comfort to those who need it. | 48:39 | |
Here us now, we pray, O God. | 48:44 | |
Take these inadequate prayers and redeem these words | 48:47 | |
in your loving mercy, through Christ, our Lord, amen. | 48:51 | |
As we bring our gifts before the Lord, | 49:06 | |
let us hear these words from 1 Chronicles. | 49:09 | |
Thine, O Lord, is the greatness, and the power, | 49:14 | |
and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty, | 49:17 | |
for all that is in the heavens and in the earth are thine. | 49:21 | |
Thine is the glory, O Lord, and thou art exalted | 49:26 | |
as head above all. | 49:31 | |
(organ music) | 49:58 | |
(singing in a foreign language) | 53:06 | |
(organ music) | 56:21 | |
♪ Praise God from whom all blessings flow ♪ | 56:35 | |
♪ Praise him all creatures here below ♪ | 56:40 | |
♪ Hallelujah, hallelujah ♪ | 56:46 | |
♪ Praise God above ye heavenly host ♪ | 56:53 | |
♪ Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost ♪ | 56:59 | |
♪ Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah ♪ | 57:05 | |
♪ Hallelujah, hallelujah ♪ | 57:14 | |
♪ Amen ♪ | 57:26 | |
- | Let us pray. | 57:36 |
O God, who can probe the depths of your wisdom? | 57:38 | |
Who can attain the heighth of your vision? | 57:43 | |
Your goodness surrounds and upholds us, | 57:46 | |
like the waters of a great gentle sea. | 57:49 | |
Your mercy envelops us as the sun warms our days. | 57:52 | |
As a mother bends to lift up her child, you stoop to us. | 57:58 | |
You lend an ear to our needs. | 58:04 | |
You rejoice at the sound of our songs of thankgiving. | 58:07 | |
For these and all other evidences of your greatness, | 58:11 | |
we give thee thanks. | 58:15 | |
O God we confess faith in your great mercy, | 58:18 | |
as we now bring these offerings before you. | 58:21 | |
Use them to further the work of your kingdom. | 58:25 | |
We pray, praying as our Lord has taught us. | 58:27 | |
Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. | 58:32 | |
Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done | 58:37 | |
On earth as it is in heaven. | 58:41 | |
Give us this day our daily bread. | 58:44 | |
And forgive us our trespasses, | 58:47 | |
As we forgive them that trespass against us. | 58:50 | |
And lead us not into temptation, | 58:54 | |
but deliver us from evil. | 58:57 | |
Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, | 59:00 | |
Forever, amen. | 59:04 | |
(organ music) | 59:08 | |
- | The grace of our Lord and savior, Jesus Christ, | 1:01:24 |
the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit | 1:01:27 | |
be with you, and remain with you now and always, amen. | 1:01:30 | |
(organ music) | 1:01:41 |